I purchased a hAP ax² and want to transfer the configuration from my main hAP ac² to it.
Currently I have ROS v7.14.2 installed on ac². To check the configuration and possibility of its transfer, first I tried to create the backup and load it back. The .backup file is restored without problems after netinstall. However, the .rsc file that was just made cannot be imported back to the same router. I reset the configuration, reboot the router, upload .rsc file, write a command in the terminal, then several lines flash in the terminal and the connection to the router is lost. When I reconnect, it is clear that it has loaded only a small part of the config, and there are no errors in the terminal.
What am I doing wrong?
hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
Last edited by hatred on Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
Backup is only for restoring on the same device. You might want to reset the ax2.
Transferring through config can be done (is it a complete export?).
Be aware that i.e. the 2.4GHz radio on the ac2 is wifi1, while it is wifi2 on the ax2. And it is in a new menu structure, so better not import it, just set it manually.
Transferring through config can be done (is it a complete export?).
Be aware that i.e. the 2.4GHz radio on the ac2 is wifi1, while it is wifi2 on the ax2. And it is in a new menu structure, so better not import it, just set it manually.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
I've read the articles and understand the difference between backup and rsc (export). Export was done using the console command:Backup is only for restoring on the same device. You might want to reset the ax2.
Transferring through config can be done (is it a complete export?).
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export file=filename show-sensitive verboseThis is a different question, please note that I’m trying to import the config to the same ac2 with the same ROS & packages from which I just exported it.Be aware that i.e. the 2.4GHz radio on the ac2 is wifi1, while it is wifi2 on the ax2. And it is in a new menu structure, so better not import it, just set it manually.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
You can not simply import an earlier made export since the target device will have some default config present, which then conflicts with some parts you want to import from the earlier made export (still with me ?).
Best to use notepad/notepad++ and import config block by block using copy/paste on terminal, observing what is already present as default.
Be also aware some default settings can change from version to version and only when you perform reset to default config (or netinstall), those new defaults will come into effect.
Best to use notepad/notepad++ and import config block by block using copy/paste on terminal, observing what is already present as default.
Be also aware some default settings can change from version to version and only when you perform reset to default config (or netinstall), those new defaults will come into effect.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
I understand this and completely reset the device configuration ("no default" checked) before importing settings.You can not simply import an earlier made export since the target device will have some default config present, which then conflicts with some parts you want to import from the earlier made export (still with me ?).
How can I figure out what's going wrong in future attempts to import config blocks into ax2 if importing the config to the same ac2 with blank config, with the same ROS & packages fails?Best to use notepad/notepad++ and import config block by block using copy/paste on terminal, observing what is already present as default.
Be aware that i.e. the 2.4GHz radio on the ac2 is wifi1, while it is wifi2 on the ax2. And it is in a new menu structure, so better not import it, just set it manually.
Last edited by hatred on Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
The reasons is that the order of the RSC file, is NOT the order required to add rules to make the config coherent.
In other words, you dont understand the config to the level necessary otherwise you wouldnt have tried, but instead would have
copied and pasted bits in the right order.
In other words, you dont understand the config to the level necessary otherwise you wouldnt have tried, but instead would have
copied and pasted bits in the right order.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
Okay, I accept my limited understanding of the config file design.The reasons is that the order of the RSC file, is NOT the order required to add rules to make the config coherent.
In other words, you dont understand the config to the level necessary otherwise you wouldnt have tried, but instead would have
copied and pasted bits in the right order.
Let's omit why RouterOS produce rsc not in the order required to add rules to make the config coherent.
Is the proper order of config blocks described anywhere?
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
It's really not a "config" — it a script file used to setup a router. So when you :export, that more "script generator" & :import similarly just a script runner. Only backup is "full copy" of everything.
As script, the order can be anything you want. Now if a called command references something else, that does need to be defined before using it. e.g. so an interface-list must be created before using it in a firewall rule. But when you an :export RouterOS it should produce correct order, but possible they have a bug.
If you login using MAC/winbox, and do an ":import verbose=yes myconfig.rsc" on no-default router, it will show you the line it fails on.
And over time there have been various bugs where an export is missing some [quasi-default] attribute or the like, and an import will fail since it's needed etc. So if you cannot import the same config back to the same router, at same version, after resetting it to blank... that's a bug.
Now in terms of transferring config from ac2 to ax2, there is no cookie-cutter way other than modify the original script manually. In terms of what to modify, you need to setup an ax2 with the desired config, and cut-and-paste that into the exported ac2 one for the wi-fi part. Essentially there is no config "migration" tool to adapt it automatically.
As script, the order can be anything you want. Now if a called command references something else, that does need to be defined before using it. e.g. so an interface-list must be created before using it in a firewall rule. But when you an :export RouterOS it should produce correct order, but possible they have a bug.
If you login using MAC/winbox, and do an ":import verbose=yes myconfig.rsc" on no-default router, it will show you the line it fails on.
And over time there have been various bugs where an export is missing some [quasi-default] attribute or the like, and an import will fail since it's needed etc. So if you cannot import the same config back to the same router, at same version, after resetting it to blank... that's a bug.
How can I figure out what's going wrong in future attempts to import config blocks into ax2 if importing the config to the same ac2 with blank config, with the same ROS & packages fails?
Now in terms of transferring config from ac2 to ax2, there is no cookie-cutter way other than modify the original script manually. In terms of what to modify, you need to setup an ax2 with the desired config, and cut-and-paste that into the exported ac2 one for the wi-fi part. Essentially there is no config "migration" tool to adapt it automatically.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
On hap-ac, default wifi1 is the 2.4Ghz interface, while on hap-ax 2.4Ghz is called wifi2.
Importing therefore a script without changes will either fail, or configure something wrong ...
You will have to sanitize it first a bit.
Importing therefore a script without changes will either fail, or configure something wrong ...
You will have to sanitize it first a bit.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
Personally, I think it's better to start with the newer default configuration of hAPax, and use the old config as a guide what to add on the hAPax manually. And compare the two configs after done to see if anything was missed (since they should look similar)
If you add more hAPax, then it should import on same model in future. So it only be a one-time effort on first hAPax.
If you add more hAPax, then it should import on same model in future. So it only be a one-time effort on first hAPax.
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
Comparing is good, why I like notepadd++ as it has a comparitive plugin,,,,,,, comes in handy
Re: hAP ac² - can't import just exported configuration
Amm0, thanks for the informative answer.
Well, I completely forgot, there are no easy ways in the MikroTik world.
Well, I completely forgot, there are no easy ways in the MikroTik world.
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