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    Pembagian Bandwitch

    Malam temen2..

    Case 1 :
    Akhir-akhir ini saya mengalami kendala dengan spidol karena jaringan sering terputus padahal ping ke DNS speedy dan server telkom 222.124.204.34 relply dengan time yang bagus.Tapi di Rx Ether router = 0 bps. saya sudah sering complain ke 147..Click here to enlarge.

    Case 2 :
    Dalam jaringan saya menggunakan spidol 2 MB dan ISP IXX 2 MB. Untuk Router sendiri saya telah membuat Spidol di arahkan untuk International ( Browsing ) dan ISP saya arahkan untuk IXX ( Game ). Semua itu saya bagi untuk 40 Client ( Browsing 20 Pc dan Game 20 PC )...

    ISP ( Lokal 2 MB )
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    Speedy ( International 2 MB )
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    Router
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    Computer Client

    Pertanyaan

    1. Apakah spidol memang sering trouble seperti case 1.. Info saya menggunakan modem ABATEC dari telkomnya sendiri

    2. Untuk pembagian queues sendiri efektifnya brp yaa untuk download dan upload International dan Local ?

    Mohon bantuannya
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hymura Click here to enlarge
    Malam temen2..


    Pertanyaan

    1. Apakah spidol memang sering trouble seperti case 1.. Info saya menggunakan modem ABATEC dari telkomnya sendiri

    2. Untuk pembagian queues sendiri efektifnya brp yaa untuk download dan upload International dan Local ?

    Mohon bantuannya
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    1. Beneran 2Mb Internasional tu spidol ? coba aja ngeceknya dengan cara colokin ke pc langsung, lalu gunakan online, klo gak da masalah berarti settingan routernya, tapi klo emang bermasalah, bisa jadi ABATEC ato emang spidolnya.

    2. jika dihitung bw untuk 20 client, berarti 2Mb / 20 = 101.2Kb sebagai Limit batas bawahnya, untuk max limit, hitung saja rata-rata minimal client online, misal minimal 4 orang, berarti 2Mb/4 = 512k max limitnya.
    lebih jelasnya silakan baca Click here to enlarge

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    1. no comment untuk speda....udah banyak kasusnya....

    2. kalo saya pake tree (HTB)....lebih akurat dlm bagi bandwidth secara merata...gak perlu pake minimal...tinggal masukin maximal aja sesuai bw yg dipunya...nanti terbagi sendiri merata.....syarat per pc(ip) dibuatin queuenya 1-1

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    1. Apakah spidol memang sering trouble seperti case 1.. Info saya menggunakan modem ABATEC dari telkomnya sendiri

    Senasib bro, korban multispeed, ane pasang 3 line 3mega, 1 linenya dah di test rata2x dapet int 100-500kbps, trus pingnya hancur, putus-putus. pelanggan pada kabur, mirisnya kaburnya ke speedy. bayangkan speedy 3Mega internsionalnya sama dgn yang 384Kbps, T_T. akhirnya beli bandwith yang real walaupun mahal T_T.

    2. Untuk pembagian queues sendiri efektifnya brp yaa untuk download dan upload International dan Local ?

    ngak ada efektifnya, kalo bandwith real 1:1 lebih mudah menghitungnya, bener kata bro lini pake HTB biar kelihatan CIRnya pake simple jg bisa kok, lihat tutorialnya di kalo speedy waduh kalo saya bilang bandwith was-was, mungkin hari ini membaik besok belum tentu.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cumie Click here to enlarge
    1. Beneran 2Mb Internasional tu spidol ? coba aja ngeceknya dengan cara colokin ke pc langsung, lalu gunakan online, klo gak da masalah berarti settingan routernya, tapi klo emang bermasalah, bisa jadi ABATEC ato emang spidolnya.

    >> Ini aq check menggunakan speedtest mendapatkan dapat 1700 kbps..


    2. jika dihitung bw untuk 20 client, berarti 2Mb / 20 = 101.2Kb sebagai Limit batas bawahnya, untuk max limit, hitung saja rata-rata minimal client online, misal minimal 4 orang, berarti 2Mb/4 = 512k max limitnya.
    lebih jelasnya silakan baca Click here to enlarge
    >> ini untuk shared or dedicated.. saya ambil local 2 MB dedicated

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lini Click here to enlarge
    1. no comment untuk speda....udah banyak kasusnya....

    2. kalo saya pake tree (HTB)....lebih akurat dlm bagi bandwidth secara merata...gak perlu pake minimal...tinggal masukin maximal aja sesuai bw yg dipunya...nanti terbagi sendiri merata.....syarat per pc(ip) dibuatin queuenya 1-1
    >> mungkin kali yaa banyak masalahnya.. nanti saya akan coba review kembali untuk menggunakan jaringan ini

    >> buat queune 1-1 gmn gannn... ada ga artikelnya...Click here to enlarge

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    > /interface print
    Flags: X - disabled, D - dynamic, R - running
    # NAME TYPE RX-RATE TX-RATE MTU
    0 R ether1 ether 0 0 1500
    1 R ;;; lan
    ether2 ether 0 0 1500
    2 R ;;; speedy
    ether3 ether 0 0 1500
    3 R ;;; ISP A
    ether4 ether 0 0 1500

    > /ip ad prin
    Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic
    # ADDRESS NETWORK BROADCAST INTERFACE
    0 X 116.197.132.XXX/24 116.197.132.0 116.197.132.255 ether1
    1 192.168.2.254/24 192.168.2.0 192.168.2.255 ether2
    2 192.168.1.4/24 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.255 ether3
    3 116.197.132.XXX/24 116.197.132.0 116.197.132.255 ether4


    ip firewall address-list> print
    Flags: X - disabled, D - dynamic
    # LIST ADDRESS
    0 white-list 192.168.2.101
    1 white-list 192.168.2.102
    2 white-list 192.168.2.1
    3 white-list 192.168.2.2
    4 white-list 192.168.2.3
    5 white-list 192.168.2.4
    6 white-list 192.168.2.5
    7 white-list 192.168.2.6
    8 white-list 192.168.2.7
    9 white-list 192.168.2.8
    10 white-list 192.168.2.9
    11 white-list 192.168.2.10
    12 white-list 192.168.2.11
    13 white-list 192.168.2.12
    14 white-list 192.168.2.13
    15 white-list 192.168.2.14
    16 white-list 192.168.2.15
    17 white-list 192.168.2.16
    18 white-list 192.168.2.17
    19 white-list 192.168.2.18
    20 white-list 192.168.2.19
    21 white-list 192.168.2.20
    22 white-list 192.168.2.21
    23 white-list 192.168.2.22
    24 white-list 192.168.2.23
    25 white-list 192.168.2.24
    26 white-list 192.168.2.25
    27 white-list 192.168.2.26
    28 white-list 192.168.2.27
    29 white-list 192.168.2.28
    30 white-list 192.168.2.29
    31 white-list 192.168.2.30
    32 white-list 192.168.2.31
    33 white-list 192.168.2.32
    34 white-list 192.168.2.33
    35 white-list 192.168.2.34
    36 white-list 192.168.2.35
    37 white-list 192.168.2.36
    38 white-list 192.168.2.37
    39 white-list 192.168.2.38
    40 white-list 192.168.2.39
    41 white-list 192.168.2.40
    42 white-list 116.197.132.163
    43 white-list 10.5.1.0/28

    >/ip fire mangle pr
    Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic
    0 X chain=prerouting protocol=icmp action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=icmp
    passthrough=yes

    1 X chain=prerouting in-interface=ether2 dst-address-list=nice
    action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=con-iix passthrough=yes

    2 X chain=prerouting connection-mark=con-iix action=mark-packet
    new-packet-mark=packet-iix passthrough=no

    3 X chain=output connection-mark=con-iix action=mark-packet
    new-packet-mark=packet-iix passthrough=no

    4 X chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=packet-int passthrough=no

    5 X chain=output action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=packet-int passthrough=no

    6 chain=prerouting in-interface=ether2 dst-address-list=nice
    action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=con-iix passthrough=yes

    7 chain=prerouting in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp src-port=4899
    action=mark-routing new-routing-mark=REMOTE passthrough=no

    8 chain=prerouting src-address=192.168.1.0/24 connection-mark=con-iix
    action=mark-routing new-routing-mark=routing-winet passthrough=yes

    9 chain=prerouting src-address=192.168.1.0/24 connection-mark=!con-iix
    action=mark-routing new-routing-mark=routing-speedy passthrough=yes

    10 chain=prerouting src-address=192.168.1.25 connection-mark=!con-iix
    action=mark-routing new-routing-mark=routing-speedy passthrough=yes

    11 chain=prerouting src-address=192.168.2.0/24 connection-mark=con-iix
    action=mark-routing new-routing-mark=routing-winet passthrough=yes

    12 chain=prerouting src-address=192.168.2.0/24 connection-mark=!con-iix
    action=mark-routing new-routing-mark=routing-speedy passthrough=yes

    13 chain=prerouting connection-mark=con-iix action=mark-packet
    new-packet-mark=packet-iix passthrough=no

    14 chain=prerouting connection-mark=con-iix action=mark-packet
    new-packet-mark=packet-iix passthrough=no

    15 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=packet-int passthrough=no

    16 chain=output action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=packet-int passthrough=no




    >/queue simple print
    Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic
    0 name="INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all
    parent=none packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/0
    total-queue=default-small

    1 name="IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all
    parent=none packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/0
    total-queue=default-small

    2 name="Billing-1-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.201/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    3 name="Billing-1-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.201/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    4 name="Billing-2-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.102/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    5 name="Billing-2-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.102/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    6 name="Client-1-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.1/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    7 name="Client-1-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.1/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    8 name="Client-2-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.2/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    9 name="Client-2-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.2/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    10 name="Client-3-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.3/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    11 name="Client-3-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.3/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    12 name="Client-4-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.4/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    13 name="Client-4-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.4/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    14 name="Client-5-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.5/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    15 name="Client-5-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.5/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    16 name="Client-6-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.6/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    17 name="Client-6-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.6/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    18 name="Client-7-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.7/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    19 name="Client-7-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.7/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    20 name="Client-8-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.8/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    21 name="Client-8-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.8/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    22 name="Client-9-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.9/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    23 name="Client-9-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.9/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    24 name="Client-10-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.10/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    25 name="Client-10-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.10/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    26 name="Client-11-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.11/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    27 name="Client-11-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.11/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    28 name="Client-12-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.12/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    29 name="Client-12-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.12/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small
    30 name="Client-13-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.13/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    31 name="Client-13-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.13/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    32 name="Client-14-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.14/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    33 name="Client-14-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.14/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    34 name="Client-15-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.15/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    35 name="Client-15-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.15/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    36 name="Client-16-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.16/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    37 name="Client-16-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.16/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    38 name="Client-17-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.17/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    39 name="Client-17-IIX" target-addresses=192.168.2.17/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=IIX packet-marks=packet-iix direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64000/256000
    total-queue=default-small

    40 name="Client-18-INT" target-addresses=192.168.2.18/32 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=all parent=INT packet-marks=packet-int direction=both priority=8
    queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=128000/256000
    total-queue=default-small
    dst....Click here to enlargeClick here to enlarge


    Apakah settingan untuk perpisahan local dan International sudah benar...
    Info : saya ambil paket ISP IXX 2 MB dan Spidol 2 M.. semua saya bagi menjadi 40 PC.. Untuk Game saya buat bisa untuk browsing juga...

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    ternyata nggak gua aja yang sapeda nya nggembos ......... ya nasib ... namanya juga sapeda ... kadang lancar pas lagi jalan turun .. pas naik wuih tergantung perutnya kosong apa isi ....

    akhirnya gua ikhlas dengan kondisi apa adanya ... ( krn adanya ya emang sapeda doang ) ... blm ada vixon...atau ... megapro .. ditempat gua .......


    solusi ... seperti di bilang bos akange ... deketin orang dlm di ajak ke cafe / wrung tegal ... jangan lupa CS nya ... sering2 dikunjungi .. biar maknyus ( soy koq mlh oot ) luka lama bersemi kembali ( LLBK )

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    tulll skrg aja nich tgl 21 juni 2009 dari pagi sapidol lagi jeprutt koneksinyaa...zzzzzz
    mana klien lagi penuh pula.....

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    Gan sekedar saran aj untuk management bandwith.

    Int limit 128K up and down per client. mengingat Kondisi speedy sekarang. gunakan proxy untuk membantu browsing.

    IIX limit 256K up and down kasil 128K jg ngak pp jgn dikasih 64K bos upnya kalo ada yang maen dota atau cs apalagi ada yang create dota upnya kasih 512Kbps.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ye_Nan_Thien Click here to enlarge
    Gan sekedar saran aj untuk management bandwith.

    Int limit 128K up and down per client. mengingat Kondisi speedy sekarang. gunakan proxy untuk membantu browsing.

    IIX limit 256K up and down kasil 128K jg ngak pp jgn dikasih 64K bos upnya kalo ada yang maen dota atau cs apalagi ada yang create dota upnya kasih 512Kbps.
    yang ini gua demen ... LAST SOLUTIONS ..... nggak ada cara lain ... kepaksa belajar squid mendadak gara gara SAPEDA ..... sering nggembozzz ..... dan hasilnya ...... cukup membantu client biar nggak pada kabur ... Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by yogaponsel Click here to enlarge
    solusi ... seperti di bilang bos akange ... deketin orang dlm di ajak ke cafe / wrung tegal ... jangan lupa CS nya ... sering2 dikunjungi .. biar maknyus ( soy koq mlh oot ) luka lama bersemi kembali ( LLBK )

    gak ngaruh, yang ngurusin beginian bagian IT nya. HEHE
    dulu pernah sih kerja di provider internet, jadi ngerti.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kdebugx86 Click here to enlarge
    gak ngaruh, yang ngurusin beginian bagian IT nya. HEHE
    dulu pernah sih kerja di provider internet, jadi ngerti.
    ngaruh om g ancem mau putus 3 Line sekaligus, 2 hari normal tuh speedy trus ancur lg. T_T

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ye_Nan_Thien Click here to enlarge
    ngaruh om g ancem mau putus 3 Line sekaligus, 2 hari normal tuh speedy trus ancur lg. T_T
    ancurnya 3 hari sampe seterusnya wakakaka - maap TS, OOT.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ye_Nan_Thien Click here to enlarge
    ngaruh om g ancem mau putus 3 Line sekaligus, 2 hari normal tuh speedy trus ancur lg. T_T
    emang pernah jadian ? Click here to enlarge

 

 
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