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    PIng WWW dan tanpa WWW

    Siang agan"
    Ane mau nanya gan apa beda nya ping dengan www. dan ping tanpa www.
    contoh :
    ping
    dan
    ping google.com

    ane sudah coba dan hasil reply nya berbeda gan lebih sering dapet RTO PING yang pakai
    knp ya gan? mohon pencerahan nya new bie soal nya
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    cdn problem barangkali Kang..bisa jadi antara yang pake www dengan yang tidak pake www tujuan akhirnya berbeda. terkecuali situs yang pake satu server.

    contoh google yang pake www larinya ke google Palo Alto kalo yang gak pake malah ke mirrornya di telkom speedy kesimpulannya kalo pake www bisa jadi lebih spesifik ke domain dibanding tanpa www yang hanya akan mencari route paling dekat kesemua domain dan mirror dari google.com.

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Users\User>ping www.google.com
    
    Pinging www.google.com [173.194.38.178] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=55
    
    Ping statistics for 173.194.38.178:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 55ms, Average = 53ms
    
    C:\Users\User>ping google.com
    
    Pinging google.com [118.98.36.45] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=57
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
    
    Ping statistics for 118.98.36.45:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 34ms
    
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 173.194.38.178
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    sin04s02-in-f18.1e100.net
    Address:  173.194.38.178
    
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 118.98.36.45
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    45.subnet118-98-36.astinet.telkom.net.id
    Address:  118.98.36.45
    Kalo salah satu banyak rto artinya jaringan yang menuju kesana jelek. Yang luar atau yang dalam yang jelek itu tergantung yang mana yang paling banyak rtonya. Click here to enlarge Mungkin ganti pake dns server yang lebih baik bisa membantu mengurangi RTOnya.
    Last edited by wandi; 06-02-2013 at 10:31.

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    Setuju dengan yang di atas, kemungkinan besar pada jaringannya in/out

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wandi Click here to enlarge
    cdn problem barangkali Kang..bisa jadi antara yang pake www dengan yang tidak pake www tujuan akhirnya berbeda. terkecuali situs yang pake satu server.

    contoh google yang pake www larinya ke google Palo Alto kalo yang gak pake malah ke mirrornya di telkom speedy kesimpulannya kalo pake www bisa jadi lebih spesifik ke domain dibanding tanpa www yang hanya akan mencari route paling dekat kesemua domain dan mirror dari google.com.

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Users\User>ping www.google.com
    
    Pinging www.google.com [173.194.38.178] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.178: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=55
    
    Ping statistics for 173.194.38.178:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 55ms, Average = 53ms
    
    C:\Users\User>ping google.com
    
    Pinging google.com [118.98.36.45] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=57
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
    Reply from 118.98.36.45: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
    
    Ping statistics for 118.98.36.45:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 34ms
    
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 173.194.38.178
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    sin04s02-in-f18.1e100.net
    Address:  173.194.38.178
    
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 118.98.36.45
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    45.subnet118-98-36.astinet.telkom.net.id
    Address:  118.98.36.45
    Kalo salah satu banyak rto artinya jaringan yang menuju kesana jelek. Yang luar atau yang dalam yang jelek itu tergantung yang mana yang paling banyak rtonya. Click here to enlarge Mungkin ganti pake dns server yang lebih baik bisa membantu mengurangi RTOnya.
    Ehm gt ya kang ada perbedaan di alamat IP juga kang bisa ngaruh kayak nya
    soal nya dari ping time diatas keliatan juga yang cepet dan lama nya
    Nuhun ya kang Click here to enlarge

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    baru tahu pake www larinya ke ix tanpa www larinya ke iix,

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dhopack Click here to enlarge
    baru tahu pake www larinya ke ix tanpa www larinya ke iix,
    di saya ko enggak ya om....Click here to enlarge
    isp pake spidol ....
     



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    @Kang brutuz_1
    Setahu saya tergantubg DNS server yang dipake kang. Karenanya untuk urusan dns carilah yang terbaik . caranya bisa pake atau .
    untuk speedy bisa dicoba dns server ini (testing pake DNSBench.exe diurut dari yang terbaik lokasi Bandung)

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    203.130.209.242     cachedns-bpp.telkom.net.id
    202.134.0.155       cachedns-jkt1.telkom.net.id
    222.124.204.34      cachedns-bdg.telkom.net.id
    203.130.208.18      cachedns-smg.telkom.net.id
    202.134.0.61        cachedns-jkt4.telkom.net.id
    202.134.1.10        cachedns-sby.telkom.net.id
    203.130.206.250     cachedns-mdn.telkom.net.id
    203.130.193.74      cachedns-btm.telkom.net.id
    61.94.192.12        nsdpr1.telkom.net.id
    203.130.196.5       cachedns-jkt2.telkom.net.id dead?
    203.130.196.155     cachedns-jkt3.telkom.net.id dead?
    atau bisa ditambah dns nawala dan opendns . Saya pribadi sudah jarang tes dns pakenya lebih sering opendns untuk keperluan filtering walaupun untuk urusan ping kadang2 alot Click here to enlarge.

    posting saya yang di atas pake dns speedy nah kalo ini pake opendns. Semua larinya ke Palo Alto
    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Users\User>ping google.com
    
    Pinging google.com [173.194.38.142] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=55
    
    Ping statistics for 173.194.38.142:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 50ms
    
    C:\Users\User>ping www.google.com
    
    Pinging www.google.com [173.194.38.147] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=55
    
    Ping statistics for 173.194.38.147:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 62ms, Average = 53ms
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 173.194.38.142
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    sin04s01-in-f14.1e100.net
    Address:  173.194.38.142
    
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 173.194.38.147
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    sin04s01-in-f19.1e100.net
    Address:  173.194.38.147
    Last edited by wandi; 06-02-2013 at 19:45.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dhopack Click here to enlarge
    baru tahu pake www larinya ke ix tanpa www larinya ke iix,
    iya, sama Master... apa lagi saya baru belajar dan bergabung. baru tau! hehee...

    Thanks juga ya Master-master yang lainnya untuk share... Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wandi Click here to enlarge
    @Kang brutuz_1
    Setahu saya tergantubg DNS server yang dipake kang. Karenanya untuk urusan dns carilah yang terbaik . caranya bisa pake atau .
    untuk speedy bisa dicoba dns server ini (testing pake DNSBench.exe diurut dari yang terbaik lokasi Bandung)

    Code:
    203.130.209.242     cachedns-bpp.telkom.net.id
    202.134.0.155       cachedns-jkt1.telkom.net.id
    222.124.204.34      cachedns-bdg.telkom.net.id
    203.130.208.18      cachedns-smg.telkom.net.id
    202.134.0.61        cachedns-jkt4.telkom.net.id
    202.134.1.10        cachedns-sby.telkom.net.id
    203.130.206.250     cachedns-mdn.telkom.net.id
    203.130.193.74      cachedns-btm.telkom.net.id
    61.94.192.12        nsdpr1.telkom.net.id
    203.130.196.5       cachedns-jkt2.telkom.net.id dead?
    203.130.196.155     cachedns-jkt3.telkom.net.id dead?
    atau bisa ditambah dns nawala dan opendns . Saya pribadi sudah jarang tes dns pakenya lebih sering opendns untuk keperluan filtering walaupun untuk urusan ping kadang2 alot Click here to enlarge.

    posting saya yang di atas pake dns speedy nah kalo ini pake opendns. Semua larinya ke Palo Alto
    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Users\User>ping google.com
    
    Pinging google.com [173.194.38.142] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.142: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=55
    
    Ping statistics for 173.194.38.142:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 50ms
    
    C:\Users\User>ping www.google.com
    
    Pinging www.google.com [173.194.38.147] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=55
    Reply from 173.194.38.147: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=55
    
    Ping statistics for 173.194.38.147:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 62ms, Average = 53ms
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 173.194.38.142
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    sin04s01-in-f14.1e100.net
    Address:  173.194.38.142
    
    
    C:\Users\User>nslookup 173.194.38.147
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.2.30
    
    Name:    sin04s01-in-f19.1e100.net
    Address:  173.194.38.147
    Kang Wandi
    ane mau tanya gmn cara nya cari dns yang terbaik kang? dari program DNSBench ane masih binggung
    Mohon pencerahan nya kang
    Nuhun

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    Ma'af kalo pake video ya,



    DNS lain silahkan dicoba sendiri ini cuma speedy nawala dan opendns

    Last edited by wandi; 16-02-2013 at 16:49.

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