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    PCQ in SIMPLE-QQ

    banyak dari kita beranggapan bahwa PCQ itu identik dgn QQ-TREE so bgtupun dgn MANGLE-nya. Bahkan tutor2 dari mikrotikpun seolah2 spt i2.

    ternyata TIDAK. pcq tetap bisa diimplementasikan pada SIMPLE-QQ dan proses HTB-pun tetap jalan dengan baik.

    sya bereksperimen dengan brg ini karena tidak mau direpotkan dgn proses mangle (yg jga membuat org takut, termasuk sya) yang bahkan kadg nda nyangkut d mangle, ato nyangkut d mangle tapi lolos d QQ-TREE.

    Hasilnya...MAKNYUS...bandwith speedy yg cuma 100k/450k (d daerah sy) dapat dibagi utk 12 klien warnet dan jga utk hotpot/rt-rw, tanpa ada komplain dri pelanggan. poker dan browsing ngacir...download NANGIS (cuma 72kbps utk smua user). hehehe....oh iya...sya dibantu dgn squid IPCOP v1.9.14.

    mangle sy diisi 3 bagian utama :
    1. mangle utk POKER
    2. mangle utk PROXY-HIT
    3. mangle utk DOWNLOAD (pake system CONTENT).

    nah...skrg tiba d bagian SIMPLE-QQ :
    1. buat QQ-TYPES spt yg akan diterapkan jika memakai QQ-TREE, utk UP n DOWN. mis utk UP 64k, classifier SRC ADDR dan utk DOWN 200k, class DST ADDR.
    2. buat SIMPLE-QQ dgn urutan : POKER, PROXY-HIT, DOWNLOAD. pritority jls poker harus yg 1 dong...yg PROXY-HIT dan DLOAD beri aja priority 8. atur limitasi berdasarkan TARGET ADDR (pake alamat NETWORK), INTERFACE, dan PACKET-MARK. trus utk QQ-TYPE, pake yg DEFAULT, baik utk UP ato DOWN.
    3. nah sekarang buat utk SIMPLE-utk kliennya. limitasi berdasarkan TARGET ADDR (jga pake alamat network), INTERFACE, tidak pake PACKET-MARK. utk QQ-TYPE pilih yg kita sdh buat pada no. 1 diatas, baik utk UP maupun DOWN-nya. Limit bandwith utk UP n DOWN harus lebih besar dari limit QQ-TYPE yng telah kita buat agar HTB dapat bekerja.

    nih contoh pada SIMPLE-QQ sya :

    [admin@xxx] /queue simple> pr
    Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic

    1 ;;; Local
    name="Poker" target-addresses=172.16.0.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=ether2 parent=none packet-marks=poker-pkt direction=both
    priority=1 queue=default/default limit-at=32k/128k max-limit=128k/512k
    burst-limit=128k/512k burst-threshold=72k/256k burst-time=20s/20s
    total-queue=default

    2 name="Poker-HS" target-addresses=192.168.76.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=ether4 parent=none packet-marks=poker-pkt direction=both
    priority=1 queue=default/default limit-at=32k/32k max-limit=128k/512k
    burst-limit=128k/512k burst-threshold=72k/256k burst-time=20s/20s
    total-queue=default

    3 name="Proxy-Hit" target-addresses=172.16.0.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=ether2 parent=none packet-marks=proxy-pkt direction=both
    priority=8 queue=default/default limit-at=0/0 max-limit=2M/10M
    burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s
    total-queue=default

    4 name="Proxy-Hit-HS" target-addresses=192.168.76.0/24
    dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=ether4 parent=none
    packet-marks=proxy-pkt direction=both priority=8 queue=default/default
    limit-at=0/0 max-limit=512k/2M burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0
    burst-time=0s/0s total-queue=default

    5 ;;; Client
    name="Warnet" dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all parent=none
    direction=both priority=4 queue=default/default limit-at=0/0
    max-limit=100k/440k burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0
    burst-time=0s/0s total-queue=default

    6 name="Download" target-addresses=172.16.0.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=ether2 parent=Warnet packet-marks=dl-pkt direction=download
    priority=8 queue=default/default limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/72k
    burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s
    total-queue=default

    7 name="Warnet-Client" target-addresses=172.16.0.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/>
    interface=ether2 parent=Warnet direction=both priority=1
    queue=wn-up/wn-down limit-at=0/0 max-limit=100k/440k burst-limit=0/0
    burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s total-queue=default

    8 ;;; Hotspot
    name="Hotspot" dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=ether4 parent=Warnet
    direction=both priority=2 queue=default/default limit-at=0/0
    max-limit=64k/200k burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s
    total-queue=default

    9 name="Download-HS" target-addresses=192.168.76.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/>
    interface=ether4 parent=Hotspot packet-marks=dl-pkt direction=download
    priority=8 queue=default/default limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/64k
    burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s
    total-queue=default

    10 name="Client-HS" target-addresses=192.168.76.0/24 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0
    interface=ether4 parent=Hotspot direction=both priority=1
    queue=hs-up/hs-down limit-at=0/0 max-limit=64k/200k burst-limit=0/0
    burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s total-queue=default

    11 D name="hs-<hotspot1>" dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=ether4 parent=none
    direction=both priority=8 queue=hotspot-default/hotspot-default
    limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/0 burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0
    burst-time=0s/0s total-queue=default-small
    susunan SIMPLE-QQ spt ini, biar lebih gmpang dianalisa.

    IFACE LOCAL
    -----|
    -----|--POKER WARNET (128k/512k)
    -----|--POKER HOTSPOT (128k/512k)
    -----|--PROXY-HIT WARNET (2m/10m)
    -----|--PROXY-HIT HOTSPOT (512k/2m)
    -----|--WARNET (100k/440k)
    -----------|
    -----------|--DLOAD (0/72k)
    -----------|--CLIENT (100k/440k => pcq : 40k/240k)
    -----------|
    -----------|--HOTSPOT (64k/200k)
    ------------------|--DLOAD (0/64k)
    ------------------|--CLIENT (64k/200k => pcq:32k/104k)

    maaf jika ada yg salah, koreksi biar kita bisa sama2 trus berkembang...

    Rahasia dapur perusahaan dibongkar, bir kita semua bisa maju dan berkembang

    eits...jangan lupa say THANKS bila ada yang berkenan.
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    Great Idea..

    Mm.. Tapi ane bingung gan.. Katanya ga pake packet-mark..

    nah...skrg tiba d bagian SIMPLE-QQ :
    1. buat QQ-TYPES spt yg akan diterapkan jika memakai QQ-TREE, utk UP n DOWN. mis utk UP 64k, classifier SRC ADDR dan utk DOWN 200k, class DST ADDR.
    2. buat SIMPLE-QQ dgn urutan : POKER, PROXY-HIT, DOWNLOAD. pritority jls poker harus yg 1 dong...yg PROXY-HIT dan DLOAD beri aja priority 8. atur limitasi berdasarkan TARGET ADDR (pake alamat NETWORK), INTERFACE, dan PACKET-MARK. trus utk QQ-TYPE, pake yg DEFAULT, baik utk UP ato DOWN.
    3. nah sekarang buat utk SIMPLE-utk kliennya. limitasi berdasarkan TARGET ADDR (jga pake alamat network), INTERFACE, tidak pake PACKET-MARK. utk QQ-TYPE pilih yg kita sdh buat pada no. 1 diatas, baik utk UP maupun DOWN-nya. Limit bandwith utk UP n DOWN harus lebih besar dari limit QQ-TYPE yng telah kita buat agar HTB dapat bekerja.
    Tapi sebelumnya,
    mangle sy diisi 3 bagian utama :
    1. mangle utk POKER
    2. mangle utk PROXY-HIT
    3. mangle utk DOWNLOAD (pake system CONTENT).
    Setahu ane, packet-mark itu mangle.. Mohon pencerahan.. Click here to enlarge Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by antareja Click here to enlarge
    Great Idea..

    Mm.. Tapi ane bingung gan.. Katanya ga pake packet-mark..



    Tapi sebelumnya,


    Setahu ane, packet-mark itu mangle.. Mohon pencerahan.. Click here to enlarge Click here to enlarge
    hihihi, mangle nya lupa belum dipastein mungkin gan??..

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    kalo mako qq-tree kan koneksi tiap klien tetap harus d mangle. nah disini kan tdk. yg dimangle cuma utk koneksi2 trtentu. koneksi yg tdk termangle nnti lgsg terlimit di simple-qq. gtu maksudnya bro... jdi kita nda takut lagi ada koneksi2 klien yg tdak terlimit. malah limitnya 2 arah lo, UP n DOWN. kalo d qq-tree kan cuma searah sja.

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    @Blue Angel:
    Boleh nanya dikit gan :
    1. Kalo bole tau agannya pake ISP apa ya dan berapa MB paket nya ?.
    2. dua IP tersebut dialokasikan untuk apa ya ? (172.16.0.0 & 192.168.76.0 <-- client gitu ?
    3. Settingnya cukup segitu aja kang, seperti yang (seperti yang akang paste-in diatas )?


    Makasih infonya gan.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by w1z4rd Click here to enlarge
    @Blue Angel:
    Boleh nanya dikit gan :
    1. Kalo bole tau agannya pake ISP apa ya dan berapa MB paket nya ?.
    2. dua IP tersebut dialokasikan untuk apa ya ? (172.16.0.0 & 192.168.76.0 <-- client gitu ?
    3. Settingnya cukup segitu aja kang, seperti yang (seperti yang akang paste-in diatas )?


    Makasih infonya gan.
    1. speedy office (unlimited). di daerah sy, bw yg dikasih cuma 100k/450k. harusnya kan 100k/1M.
    2. ip 172.16.0.0 utk warnet, trus 192.168.76.0 utk hotspot.
    3. utk simple-qq mmg cuma sgitu. mangle utk poker n download anda harus kembangkan sdri.

    prinsipnya sy cma mau nunjukin bahwa PCQ jga bisa diimplementasika di simple qq, dan HTB juga berjalan dgn baik.

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    selera boleh sama .. rasanya bisa beda ....?? hehehhe

    kalo saya preffer nya

    Queue tree untuk traffik priority
    Simple queue untuk benwit manajamen .. Clien / up & down ...

    so....... pilihan ada di tangan admin masing2 Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by yogaponsel Click here to enlarge
    selera boleh sama .. rasanya bisa beda ....?? hehehhe

    kalo saya preffer nya

    Queue tree untuk traffik priority
    Simple queue untuk benwit manajamen .. Clien / up & down ...

    so....... pilihan ada di tangan admin masing2 Click here to enlarge
    Yoi.. Selera kita sama cuy.Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blue Angel Click here to enlarge
    banyak dari kita beranggapan bahwa PCQ itu identik dgn QQ-TREE so bgtupun dgn MANGLE-nya. Bahkan tutor2 dari mikrotikpun seolah2 spt i2.

    ternyata TIDAK. pcq tetap bisa diimplementasikan pada SIMPLE-QQ dan proses HTB-pun tetap jalan dengan baik.

    sya bereksperimen dengan brg ini karena tidak mau direpotkan dgn proses mangle (yg jga membuat org takut, termasuk sya) yang bahkan kadg nda nyangkut d mangle, ato nyangkut d mangle tapi lolos d QQ-TREE.

    Hasilnya...MAKNYUS...bandwith speedy yg cuma 100k/450k (d daerah sy) dapat dibagi utk 12 klien warnet dan jga utk hotpot/rt-rw, tanpa ada komplain dri pelanggan. poker dan browsing ngacir...download NANGIS (cuma 72kbps utk smua user). hehehe....oh iya...sya dibantu dgn squid IPCOP v1.9.14.

    mangle sy diisi 3 bagian utama :
    1. mangle utk POKER
    2. mangle utk PROXY-HIT
    3. mangle utk DOWNLOAD (pake system CONTENT).

    nah...skrg tiba d bagian SIMPLE-QQ :
    1. buat QQ-TYPES spt yg akan diterapkan jika memakai QQ-TREE, utk UP n DOWN. mis utk UP 64k, classifier SRC ADDR dan utk DOWN 200k, class DST ADDR.
    2. buat SIMPLE-QQ dgn urutan : POKER, PROXY-HIT, DOWNLOAD. pritority jls poker harus yg 1 dong...yg PROXY-HIT dan DLOAD beri aja priority 8. atur limitasi berdasarkan TARGET ADDR (pake alamat NETWORK), INTERFACE, dan PACKET-MARK. trus utk QQ-TYPE, pake yg DEFAULT, baik utk UP ato DOWN.
    3. nah sekarang buat utk SIMPLE-utk kliennya. limitasi berdasarkan TARGET ADDR (jga pake alamat network), INTERFACE, tidak pake PACKET-MARK. utk QQ-TYPE pilih yg kita sdh buat pada no. 1 diatas, baik utk UP maupun DOWN-nya. Limit bandwith utk UP n DOWN harus lebih besar dari limit QQ-TYPE yng telah kita buat agar HTB dapat bekerja.

    nih contoh pada SIMPLE-QQ sya :



    susunan SIMPLE-QQ spt ini, biar lebih gmpang dianalisa.

    IFACE LOCAL
    -----|
    -----|--POKER WARNET (128k/512k)
    -----|--POKER HOTSPOT (128k/512k)
    -----|--PROXY-HIT WARNET (2m/10m)
    -----|--PROXY-HIT HOTSPOT (512k/2m)
    -----|--WARNET (100k/440k)
    -----------|
    -----------|--DLOAD (0/72k)
    -----------|--CLIENT (100k/440k => pcq : 40k/240k)
    -----------|
    -----------|--HOTSPOT (64k/200k)
    ------------------|--DLOAD (0/64k)
    ------------------|--CLIENT (64k/200k => pcq:32k/104k)

    maaf jika ada yg salah, koreksi biar kita bisa sama2 trus berkembang...

    Rahasia dapur perusahaan dibongkar, bir kita semua bisa maju dan berkembang

    eits...jangan lupa say THANKS bila ada yang berkenan.


    Bos, kalau nggak keberatan, di kasih dong manglenya, agar bisa di tiru buat newbie seperti aku ini

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    kalo mangle sih sdh byk contohnya d forum ini. ga ada beda dgn mangle2 yg sdh ada. yg jelas mangle disni cuma buat bedain trafik utk poker, proxy-hit, n download.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by yogaponsel Click here to enlarge
    selera boleh sama .. rasanya bisa beda ....?? hehehhe

    kalo saya preffer nya

    Queue tree untuk traffik priority
    Simple queue untuk benwit manajamen .. Clien / up & down ...

    so....... pilihan ada di tangan admin masing2 Click here to enlarge
    nih gwa kutip dri salah satu modul mikrotik dgn judul :
    MIKROTIK ROUTEROS WORKSHOP-QoS BEST PRACTICE / Dallas / Forth Worth / MUM USA 2009 hal. 9

    if placed in the same HTB, Simple-qq will take all the traffic away from the QQ-Tree queue
    pengertian harafiah saya : jika ada simple-qq dan qq-tree yg diterapkan pada HTB (interface/global-in/global-out), maka simple-qq yg akan menjalankan fungsi queue.

    makanya saya agak ragu menerapkan simple-qq dan qq-tree, dan sptinya mmg jdi rancu jika menerapkn 2 queue.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hikmahcell Click here to enlarge
    Yoi.. Selera kita sama cuy.Click here to enlarge
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by yogaponsel Click here to enlarge
    selera boleh sama .. rasanya bisa beda ....?? hehehhe

    kalo saya preffer nya

    Queue tree untuk traffik priority
    Simple queue untuk benwit manajamen .. Clien / up & down ...

    so....... pilihan ada di tangan admin masing2 Click here to enlarge
    Click here to enlarge ane juga sama Click here to enlarge

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    hehehe...kalo ane sih okenya trafik priority n bw manajemen dua2nya d simple-qq biar nda rancu. tinggal mainin di target addr n interface.

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    Wah bisa d coba nech d tempat ane...
    ijin nyimak dulu gan...Click here to enlarge

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    Hehe.. Kayak makanan aja.. Mo setingan kayak gimana aja bebas, yang penting perut kenyang.. Tiap admin punya personal touch masing2. Selama kebutuhan terpenuhi, sah-sah aja.. Bahkan, skrg ane perhatiin udah banyak newbie yang bisa meracik sendiri resep buat menuhin kebutuhannya hasil nyomot dari sana sini.. So, this is why we love FMI.. Banyak pilihan warna dan rasa resep tapi tetap, yang penting akhirnya kenyang.. Hehe.. Lanjut gan..

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